scifigamingmom:
anonymousromulan:
jupiterservice:
ottervomitrarara:
anonymousromulan:
JJ u so smrt
“I was never really a fan. I never really got it. Most of my friends who loved it were, without question, smarter than I was. I couldn’t get it. It felt stilted.”
“I was asked if I was interested in producing a Star Trek movie. When I said yes – I had never thought of it – but what occurred to me was that there was a version of it that I could see getting interested in… Getting to do things that as a kid filmmaker cliché you want to do – spaceships and planets exploding.”
“The challenge of doing “Star Trek” — despite the fact that it existed before “Star Wars” — is that we are clearly in the shadow of what George Lucas has done.”
“That is something “Star Wars” did so well with its amazing creature design. The question is how do you subtly introduce the idea that there are different species here. And to also do it differently than the “Trek” TV shows, which basically had someone wearing a mask sitting in a chair in the background.”
-Actual JJ Abrams quotes on Star Trek
I remember going to Star Trek conventions when there was no TNG, DS9, VOY, etc. What you repeatedly heard in those days was how Star Trek was so much different than any other Science Fiction of its time because it always made serious attempts to say something important. It respected the intelligence of its audience enough to consistently confront them with thought-provoking parallels of important issues and events of the time. Gene Roddenberry tested every script with one basic question: What’s it about? Every script had to be about something - something larger than just people in space doing stuff and things. This is what made Star Trek special. Other science-fiction shows of the day were content to be simple adventure stories set in space with little substance or meaning - and those shows have been long forgotten while Star Trek continues to endure almost five decades later. This used to be a universal understanding about Star Trek and the test by which every new production was judged against. This is why I have been continually stunned at the popularity of NuTrek, since JJ Abrams has effectively eviscerated all of those wonderful characteristics from Star Trek.
Why is this so hard, for so many to understand. He isn’t making Star Trek, he is making Star Wars with the Trek name on it. There is nothing wrong with Star Wars either, but there was a reason they were two different things. Long live Prime Star Trek.
P.S. Star trek is obviously better, lol.
Reblogging myself for awesome commentary. <3
To those who don’t get the joke and/or who are commenting with other examples of ships and water… this is based on an actual Abrams quote in which he thinks to boldly go where no man has gone before means that you can put the Enterprise underwater because no one has done that and it’s in the spirit of Gene Roddenberry somehow. I’m not simply nitpicking the stupidity of throwing the Enterprise in the ocean (what a fitting metaphor), absurd as it is, but criticizing the fact that Jar Jar really has no idea what he’s talking about. And that’s my problem with him: he’s doing a franchise he knows NOTHING about and doesn’t even have the courtesy to try respecting it. And since spaceships in the water has been done in Trek before, guess what… that just further proves my point that Abrams doesn’t know anything.
Getting real tired of this “holier than thou” attitude from us older trek fans.
WHO THE FUCK CARES.
Stop ruining shit for everyone else with your fucking useless, pedantic, bullshit.
I’ve been a Trekker for 30 fucking years, and I am so tired of people shitting on the New Trek, just like you shitted on TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT.
It’s getting really old at this point.
Really fucking old.
I’m gonna start unfollowing people now because this is ridiculous.
Get over yourselves.
Seriously.
It’s not a holier than thou attitude, it’s making an observation and having a critical opinion about how Star Trek is currently being handled. You want to talk holier than thou, this “WHO THE FUCK CARES [IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE REBOOT]” and “your fucking useless, pedantic bullshit” attitude is exactly what I dealt with everywhere when the reboot was first released, because god forbid anyone have anything critical to say about a shallow movie with the Star Trek label slapped on it by someone who has proven in his own words time and time again that he just does not care about the franchise. So I’m not phased by it anymore. I got used to being bullied into not being allowed to voice my opinion on the matter. But recently, I’ve discovered that with news of the next installment, a lot of other Trek fans are also becoming annoyed at the development of so-called Star Trek. Just because you don’t care and because it’s really old doesn’t make mine or other people’s arguments less valid.
I like how every reboot defense dissolves into a matter of somehow being told you can’t like something. Nobody is ruining anything for you. Nobody said you have to agree. So not sorry that some of us feel that Star Trek is actually being ruined for us and want to voice that.
jupiterservice:
ottervomitrarara:
anonymousromulan:
JJ u so smrt
“I was never really a fan. I never really got it. Most of my friends who loved it were, without question, smarter than I was. I couldn’t get it. It felt stilted.”
“I was asked if I was interested in producing a Star Trek movie. When I said yes – I had never thought of it – but what occurred to me was that there was a version of it that I could see getting interested in… Getting to do things that as a kid filmmaker cliché you want to do – spaceships and planets exploding.”
“The challenge of doing “Star Trek” — despite the fact that it existed before “Star Wars” — is that we are clearly in the shadow of what George Lucas has done.”
“That is something “Star Wars” did so well with its amazing creature design. The question is how do you subtly introduce the idea that there are different species here. And to also do it differently than the “Trek” TV shows, which basically had someone wearing a mask sitting in a chair in the background.”
-Actual JJ Abrams quotes on Star Trek
I remember going to Star Trek conventions when there was no TNG, DS9, VOY, etc. What you repeatedly heard in those days was how Star Trek was so much different than any other Science Fiction of its time because it always made serious attempts to say something important. It respected the intelligence of its audience enough to consistently confront them with thought-provoking parallels of important issues and events of the time. Gene Roddenberry tested every script with one basic question: What’s it about? Every script had to be about something - something larger than just people in space doing stuff and things. This is what made Star Trek special. Other science-fiction shows of the day were content to be simple adventure stories set in space with little substance or meaning - and those shows have been long forgotten while Star Trek continues to endure almost five decades later. This used to be a universal understanding about Star Trek and the test by which every new production was judged against. This is why I have been continually stunned at the popularity of NuTrek, since JJ Abrams has effectively eviscerated all of those wonderful characteristics from Star Trek.
Why is this so hard, for so many to understand. He isn’t making Star Trek, he is making Star Wars with the Trek name on it. There is nothing wrong with Star Wars either, but there was a reason they were two different things. Long live Prime Star Trek.
P.S. Star trek is obviously better, lol.
Reblogging myself for awesome commentary. <3
To those who don’t get the joke and/or who are commenting with other examples of ships and water… this is based on an actual Abrams quote in which he thinks to boldly go where no man has gone before means that you can put the Enterprise underwater because no one has done that and it’s in the spirit of Gene Roddenberry somehow. I’m not simply nitpicking the stupidity of throwing the Enterprise in the ocean (what a fitting metaphor), absurd as it is, but criticizing the fact that Jar Jar really has no idea what he’s talking about. And that’s my problem with him: he’s doing a franchise he knows NOTHING about and doesn’t even have the courtesy to try respecting it. And since spaceships in the water has been done in Trek before, guess what… that just further proves my point that Abrams doesn’t know anything.
I always thought this was the gayest thing ever.
Well, I’m just a fan of “Star Wars.” As a kid, “Star Wars” was much more my thing than “Star Trek” was. If you look at the last three “Star Wars” films and what technology allowed them to do, they covered so much terrain in terms of design, locations, characters, aliens, ships — so much of the spectacle has been done and it seems like every aspect has been covered, whether it’s geography or design of culture or weather system or character or ship type. Everything has been tapped in those movies. The challenge of doing “Star Trek” — despite the fact that it existed before “Star Wars” — is that we are clearly in the shadow of what George Lucas has done.
aldora89:
deathbygorgeous-golden-captain:
Can we talk about the fact that Jim was in a great deal of pain during this?
YES.
Cue new headcanon: This little exchange was actually kind of a slip-up for Jim. Like he tries to keep it professional most of the time, he really does, but when he’s emotionally/physically exhausted for some reason, he’s prone to moments like this. To losing his filter and just freakin’ hitting on Spock like there’s no tomorrow. Oops.
Spock looks like he got all dolled up just in case this happened.
jupiterservice:
iseefearinyoureyeshuman:
darthdeverell:
I’m not sure how I feel about this since the Enterprise isn’t capable of landing on or taking off from a planet. This is a continuation of the same problem from Star Trek (2009) which portrayed the Enterprise under construction outside of Riverside, Iowa, despite the fact that it was supposed to be built in orbit over San Francisco. As a Constitution-class starship, the struts holding the saucer and warp nacelles above the secondary hull would not have been strong enough to withstand Earth gravity, which is why the Enterprise has only ever briefly entered the upper reaches of the atmosphere, not to mention the ship has no landing gear, unlike an Intrepid-class starship. Granted, the Enterprise is shown crashing in this image and, while its seals would ensure that it remained positively buoyant, it would never be able to return to space under its own power.
That said, while I understand that J.J. Abrams’ films are intended for the Star Wars crowd rather than the traditional Trekker, I hope that the success of Abrams’ films will lead to a television series, continuing the visual style and dynamic of the movies, but incorporating more of the spirit of earlier Trek television series and films.
This is quite a fair amount of my reasoning too (Seriously though, ships the size of NCC-1701 cannot simply land on a planet, not take off from one) and that is one of the many, many reasons it bugs me to the point I just can’t like it.
I want my prime!trek to continue please. This just isn’t the same.
Seriously WTF, they even made a poster of this total bullshit? It’s not a submarine, it’s supposed to be a spaceship. There is no way the ship would take that, let alone get back into space. Jar Jar is so out to lunch. We need to get past these movies and get back to a new series in prime canon. There have been good Star Trek movies, but Star trek has always been better suited to TV. I want to get back to exploring space and humanity in the future. Not this mindless explosion and lens flare filled drivel.
Listen Paramount, we are your loyal fans that have given you a lot of our hard earned money, time to give us something in return. I own everything you ever out out on film and TV except this horrible garbage. Please give us a new show in the prime universe. Get someone really good to write and direct it, trust me, I will be there to watch it, and so will all the other loyal fans of prime Star Trek. You have all the material you need to make an amazing show. Find someone like Ronald D Moore or Joss Whedon and get this done. Don’t give it someone like Jar Jar who didn’t like Trek and made a movie that wasn’t for Trek’s fan base.
Lolllllll this is hilariously stupid omg Jar Jar. LOL GET IT IT’S A SHIP SO I PUT IT IN DA WATER
iardacil:
DS9: The Dogs of War
“The glamour of being a revolutionary.”
How am I only now realizing how flamboyant Garak is in this scene
pointy-ears:
Seven - the best straight man that ever was Pt.2
(Liquor=lick her and poker=poke her, in case you didn’t get that)
Can somebody please tell me what is happening
mrpicard:
LEVAR OMG
I know one of my besties got me this too, lol. :D
